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why not fuwa modo on a private server
« on: July 26, 2013, 11:23:05 pm »
Good Evening everyone

Fuwa modo's are known for their massive hp pool, amazing white damage and fastening ability, But are they any useful to play on a private server?

to answer that, we need to dig deep into the secrets of modo, so first of all I want to clear that any faction with any affinity is playable and it all depends on your gears configuration and your game play style.

Demonic Posture II: that skill gives huge hp pool to fuwa modos, make them one of the best tanking factions in game, along with sp shield Nimble spirit, you can tank almost anything if not everything.

FoL II/DoC II<Zen>: , FoL is known for white dmg.

with FoLII you can do white damage according to the difference between your Stun RES and enemy stun res.
the rule states the dmg  equal 10 x Stun RES + 3.0x bonus so it is 13x your stun res, and modo stun res can go to high value around 7k-9k using bloodcurdling curse buff.

so the white dmg would be around 120k from the first hit of FOLII, there are 2 more hits. [consider you have 125 stun res on esper, max expertise and have stun res imbue with RES buffs]

In my opinion that dmg is low and not enough to kill on a pserver like this one. on official due to low gear level, fuwa modo can almost one hit anyone, but here i prefer to go Dagos modo.

lemme see what do you think about it.
and as always thanks for reading.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2014, 10:52:38 pm by Prowler »

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 11:41:20 pm »
i played modo once , but i was felkin modo , kinda tankie and based on bleeds and fasting =) the bleeds where huge and DoC chroma version wasent bad too , fuwa & dagos ? i neva played em :p

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 08:25:50 am »
125 stun res ? lol your res can be like 1000 + here so you should be hitting way harder than 120k.

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 10:31:39 am »
I said 125 stun res on ESPER, but total res can go up to 10-11k theoretically. my fuwa modo on jade monkey can go up to 8k stun res.

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 02:08:05 pm »
fuwa modo's are actually very cool. Even if on here you may think they dont have any chance but i don't agree with you, they can be very good once you worked your res up and know how to play it. unfortunatelly what i saw on JD always, people never get the risk to go with a less used affinity for most of the classes. most of vims are always fuwa, lupins are mostly dagos, rayans are mostly dagos, ardens are mostly felkin and so on. Would be nice to see more people with different affinities on their faction. Once i get ingame im gonna switch to fuwa arden, yolo!
if you have high chroma lvl too you can even play abit dagos style on fuwa modo imo, buffing up chroma (forgot the names tbh :/ ) then just go in the middle of the people you can do pretty good dmg with kangba xD.
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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 03:00:02 pm »
I already mentioned that any faction with any affinity is playable and it all depends on your game play style and gears configurations.


Fuwa modos are one of the best choices, and as for fuwa lupins they have huge pool of hp, with good gears and high chroma nothing is impossible .


But if you ever played fuwa modo, you may noticed that they kill with first hit of each skill, actually they rely on white dmg to kill, What about other hits, useless? No, of course not, but the chances are much lower and since this server has boosted pots so the target may pot your hits bcoz modo's demonic single target skills have a delay between each of the hits.


Thanks for your feedback.

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 07:22:16 pm »
I'm a fuwa modo and besides im noob on pvp i have a incredible high dmg, u'll be able to SPAM DoC2 with a high chroma and make a silence lock, and with that u can break any sp shield u want or even w8 for raja. The Skyseeker give a lot of dmg and its based on ur hp, so more hp u have (EASY on Privates) more dmg, so if u have 150k hp that is not hard, u give 450k with max chroma, not that bad right?

I'm really impressed on how ppl go by the most, i'm making a felkin celan a dagos vim and MAYBE a felkin lupin 2 , dunno yet, so i can c with my own eyes that they suck or not, and not keep listening on the ppl D:

Dagos modo can be good and felkin 2, but again, i like fuwa and dont think it's a bad choice, u just have to make a lot more of change of forms

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 09:08:07 am »
I have played fuwa modo for a very long time on official and I have just started here on md but I have already noticed a good advantage for me being a fuwa modo because so few people are fuwa modos pvpers don't know what to expect exactly but here are a couple helpful combos to get your fuwa modos killing:

1) sp burn-  aegis of sand modo resets your cds for your asc skills so I like to use thwart demon modo (60% sp burn and aoe) then flesh burn 2 (12 sec fast and also aoe) then aegis to reset and thwart demon again 4 sec total and they are fasted and -20% sp and unable to pot or use sp skills.... and all aoes so works great on groups

2) fol2 hits with 3 diff res, yes stun is first but its dependant on a modon buff which takes time to swap and not as reliable mid combat I use secluded sprig to buff para (only res modo isn't immune against stun sleep-upheld oath, silence restrained resentment) and with para trinket on official I can hit over 5k para res very easy with only +6 imbues on gear and skill acc on weap using ring of ultimate truth essences and hgem gear (not res gear) try using secluded and fol 2 and see if that's more effective for you :)

3) no raja... modos have no raja so tanking a raja'd enemy is tough use your asc skill with the speed buff its faster than any other speed buffs besides arden/mage in their non combat forms :)

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 08:20:00 am »
Bloodcurdling curse is still a better option than secluded spring.

SS can only increase paralyze by 190% of total resistance rather than bc's 205% of the total.

5k total resistances, 1.9 x 5,000 = 9,500; 2.05 x 5,000 = 10,250.

DoC2 also deals damage based off stun. So, you'd be sacrificing higher white damage from fol2 and lower damage from doc2 solely for convenience.

One can just practice better buff control, it's not that hassling. A decent example of it: http://www.aipai.com/c10/Oj0_JyMlImgnaiAt.html
« Last Edit: July 11, 2014, 10:51:08 pm by Ecc »


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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2014, 01:23:28 pm »
 
Bloodcurdling curse is still a better option than secluded spring.

I disagree and here is why :)

 
SS can only increase paralyze by 190% of total resistance rather than bc's 205% of the total.

Dont forget to charm your ss with chill wind charm or is it wind chill? i forget but that adds another 15% making them equal, and also para res trinket boosts para higher than stun could possibly reach
just an fyi you can hotkey charms ;)


 
DoC2 also deals damage based off stun. So, you'd be sacrificing higher white damage from fol2 and lower damage from doc2 solely for convenience.

actually FoL2 deals 3 hits first being stun, 2nd is para and 3rd is based off silence so you will infact do more dmg on your second hit if you can make your para res higher than stun
and as for doc2 if they are not raja'd and they survive it mad props to them! lol with 71% crit i 1-shot everyone with that on official :)
but i see where your coming from, if time is permitting stun would be preferred for doc and you can nimble while your in modon form anyway :) but sometimes you dont have that much time and if thats the case secluded works great without sacraficing much time switching forms, i'd say a being a better modo requires you to practice a bit of both :)

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2014, 11:05:22 pm »

Dont forget to charm your ss with chill wind charm or is it wind chill? i forget but that adds another 15% making them equal, and also para res trinket boosts para higher than stun could possibly reach

actually FoL2 deals 3 hits first being stun, 2nd is para and 3rd is based off silence so you will infact do more dmg on your second hit if you can make your para res higher than stun

Chill Wind's base level is only 2/2, charming it will only make it +45%, while Spiritual Consumption's base level is 3/3, already being equal to SS without having to charm it, but once you do it's already in favor of bloodcurdling curse than secluded spring

145+45 = 190 < 145+60 = 205, my values took into account the maxed ranked tome w/ charm for both

So one'll always get more stun resistance than paralyze resistance under the same circumstances


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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2014, 04:10:37 am »
hmm nice i've never actually used a charm for secluded but thats cool i wonder if you could stack your res casting secluded first then bloodcurdling? or visa versa?

another reason i usually go with secluded is because modo is already immune to sleep, stun, and silence with the appropriate buffs so with secluded your basically immune to para as well

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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2014, 12:30:27 am »
hmm nice i've never actually used a charm for secluded but thats cool i wonder if you could stack your res casting secluded first then bloodcurdling? or visa versa?

another reason i usually go with secluded is because modo is already immune to sleep, stun, and silence with the appropriate buffs so with secluded your basically immune to para as well

You cannot stack the resistance increases

Like a lot of the Modo's buffs, if the player currently has a Concentrated Resistance buff, they can't replace it with the same buff, and both secluded spring and bloodcurdling curse give the same buff

Yea, you'll be immune to paralyze, though there aren't many factions you have to worry about paralyzing you on this server... not much jadeons, only three factions I can see are Fortas, Balos, and Felkin Ardens and you already have the Mental Stillness buff from chroma and the Karmatic Justice affinity skill


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Re: why not fuwa modo on a private server
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2014, 05:34:11 am »
I guess I don't pvp enough lol all I see are mages and voidas lol

But luckily for us those factions have short/weak rajas I can usually wipe a forta raja in one doc zen havnt really dueled many balos yet on here as I'm still pretty new to md but when I've had a chance to test a bit on one with similar gear ill let you know any weaknesses I find if anyone has any tips for smashing other common factions id love to hear them :)

 

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